Comments on: The Standard + SE Bikes Limited Edition PK Ripper http://www.limitemagazine.com/2009/09/the-standard-se-bikes-limited-edition-pk-ripper/ Your online guide to lifestyle Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:51:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: weston http://www.limitemagazine.com/2009/09/the-standard-se-bikes-limited-edition-pk-ripper/comment-page-1/#comment-13810 weston Sun, 27 Dec 2009 03:07:46 +0000 http://www.limitemagazine.com/?p=15193#comment-13810 I happen to run a machining business here in the states and can tell all of you for a fact that the Chinese materials are full of lead and inferior. Just try to buy stainless or brass from China and you will find that you get garbage. The standards that us U.S. manufacturers are asked to hold are much higher than our customers expect when they buy the cheap Chinese junk. They can tolerate junk when they buy it at half the price. U.S. junk distributors, aka sellers of made in China could care less if they alienatea customer or two with a defective product. I often get a good laugh when I look at made in China machined products because I understand how threads should look along with many other machining characteristics that are there for a purpose. Maybe for a simple no performance intended bycicle these things don't matter but if they end up somewhere on the plane you are flying you may lose your life. Being someone who knows what poor quality is when he sees it I'll stick to buying retro bikes made either here or japan on places like ebay. The made in China garbage has no place in this American's garage. I happen to run a machining business here in the states and can tell all of you for a fact that the Chinese materials are full of lead and inferior. Just try to buy stainless or brass from China and you will find that you get garbage. The standards that us U.S. manufacturers are asked to hold are much higher than our customers expect when they buy the cheap Chinese junk. They can tolerate junk when they buy it at half the price. U.S. junk distributors, aka sellers of made in China could care less if they alienatea customer or two with a defective product. I often get a good laugh when I look at made in China machined products because I understand how threads should look along with many other machining characteristics that are there for a purpose. Maybe for a simple no performance intended bycicle these things don’t matter but if they end up somewhere on the plane you are flying you may lose your life. Being someone who knows what poor quality is when he sees it I’ll stick to buying retro bikes made either here or japan on places like ebay. The made in China garbage has no place in this American’s garage.

]]> By: bolt http://www.limitemagazine.com/2009/09/the-standard-se-bikes-limited-edition-pk-ripper/comment-page-1/#comment-10800 bolt Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:56:49 +0000 http://www.limitemagazine.com/?p=15193#comment-10800 aaaaaahrg: I know i shouldn't care about anonymous post on the web but, i feel like you may just be pissed about the track bike hype on this one. Granted i'd rather use products not made in China or Taiwan, but the fact that things are made there doesn't mean they are shit. Are you a welder? In my welding program in college i learned a few things to look for in a weld and those welds look pretty damn good from here. Component wise... who knows, a lot of non-branding going on here. But Sugino and Velocity have a damn good reputation for quality and non-chinese/taiwan manufacuturing. Quit getting pissed about bikes and go ride one. aaaaaahrg: I know i shouldn’t care about anonymous post on the web but, i feel like you may just be pissed about the track bike hype on this one. Granted i’d rather use products not made in China or Taiwan, but the fact that things are made there doesn’t mean they are shit. Are you a welder? In my welding program in college i learned a few things to look for in a weld and those welds look pretty damn good from here. Component wise… who knows, a lot of non-branding going on here. But Sugino and Velocity have a damn good reputation for quality and non-chinese/taiwan manufacuturing. Quit getting pissed about bikes and go ride one.

]]> By: Todd http://www.limitemagazine.com/2009/09/the-standard-se-bikes-limited-edition-pk-ripper/comment-page-1/#comment-10775 Todd Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:30:27 +0000 http://www.limitemagazine.com/?p=15193#comment-10775 SE has made some of the best BMX bicycles since the beginning of the sport. I am familiar with the people who are now running the brand and can assure you that they have access to the best bike manufacturing on the planet. If it is made in China it's going to be as good as Taiwanese which over the last 25 years has proven to be as well made (for mass production) as anywhere. China has really stepped up in the bike manufacturing. SE has made some of the best BMX bicycles since the beginning of the sport. I am familiar with the people who are now running the brand and can assure you that they have access to the best bike manufacturing on the planet. If it is made in China it’s going to be as good as Taiwanese which over the last 25 years has proven to be as well made (for mass production) as anywhere.
China has really stepped up in the bike manufacturing.

]]> By: sweetbutnot16 http://www.limitemagazine.com/2009/09/the-standard-se-bikes-limited-edition-pk-ripper/comment-page-1/#comment-10713 sweetbutnot16 Sat, 03 Oct 2009 04:31:33 +0000 http://www.limitemagazine.com/?p=15193#comment-10713 look around....alot of things are made in china. doesnt mean they are cheap. i saw that bike in a shop (stock) and its pretty darn sweet. unless you find a welder/framebuilder you just cant do better. not all mass production product is crap (like you seem to think aaaaargh)...look at the ipod. look around….alot of things are made in china. doesnt mean they are cheap. i saw that bike in a shop (stock) and its pretty darn sweet. unless you find a welder/framebuilder you just cant do better.

not all mass production product is crap (like you seem to think aaaaargh)…look at the ipod.

]]> By: Harley http://www.limitemagazine.com/2009/09/the-standard-se-bikes-limited-edition-pk-ripper/comment-page-1/#comment-10695 Harley Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:16:44 +0000 http://www.limitemagazine.com/?p=15193#comment-10695 Are you just stating this, or have you actually had experience with this brand? Are you just stating this, or have you actually had experience with this brand?

]]> By: Adam http://www.limitemagazine.com/2009/09/the-standard-se-bikes-limited-edition-pk-ripper/comment-page-1/#comment-10694 Adam Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:09:59 +0000 http://www.limitemagazine.com/?p=15193#comment-10694 OH BURN! OH BURN!

]]> By: aaaaaahrg http://www.limitemagazine.com/2009/09/the-standard-se-bikes-limited-edition-pk-ripper/comment-page-1/#comment-10362 aaaaaahrg Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:23:49 +0000 http://www.limitemagazine.com/?p=15193#comment-10362 Those bikes are really crappy, made in china, awful welds, cheap components. I thought the Standard was an elegant and highbrow, sleek and upscale hotel...but now is just cheap & cheesy Those bikes are really crappy, made in china, awful welds, cheap components. I thought the Standard was an elegant and highbrow, sleek and upscale hotel…but now is just cheap & cheesy

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